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One was to get a sense of what people in BFA and MFA workshops were reading. So I looked for some anthologies (old -- the one Raymond Carver edited; and new -- the Scribners anthology with people like Junot Diaz and Tony Earley) geared toward classroom use. I also wanted to re-read fiction that I knew I liked and to see what I could steal. This continues to be an interesting experience because it's hard for me to accept the fact that it's not a good idea for me, at least right now, to try to write like a lot of the writers I dearly love to read -- such as W.G. Sebald. So I'm sticking with other writers I love to read, but who somehow make me think that maybe I could do something sort of like what they do: the James Joyce of *Dubliners,* Chekhov and late Carver, the Updike of the early stories and Rabbit tetralogy, and late Richard Ford. Why would I squander my outside-the-MFA-world freedom to try to learn how to write a well-made realist short story? I just have the feeling that this is the place to start getting better at this craft.<BR/><BR/>By the way, in response to some of the posts above, the main reason I decided not to apply to any MFA programs was that I didn't want to create disruptions for my family if I didn't absolutely have to. I have nothing against the workshop model myself, although I understand that there are valid criticisms of it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15642985.post-1149455021627527702006-06-04T14:03:00.000-07:002006-06-04T14:03:00.000-07:00By the way, Original Question Asker, what kind of ...By the way, Original Question Asker, what kind of reading list did you come up with? What was your process?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15642985.post-1149453950710081962006-06-04T13:45:00.000-07:002006-06-04T13:45:00.000-07:00Holy maroly. I think *somebody* got a few too many...Holy maroly. I think *somebody* got a few too many rejection letters.<BR/><BR/>I too am considering whether or not to go MFA. I recently took 2 writing workshops. I have to be honest, I'm starting to think I'd be better off just carving out my own writing schedule and reading lots of great literature. In the workshops we spent *so* much time responding to other student's work and trying to help them make it better. But (and this is harsh!) I'd rather have spent all that time writing my own work. AND, when I was "up", I wasn't sure that a small circle of similarly new writers would be able to offer the helping hand that my writing really needs. <BR/>I hope that doesn't sound too mean but it's why I'm strongly considering striking out on my own.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15642985.post-1149450054750275792006-06-04T12:40:00.000-07:002006-06-04T12:40:00.000-07:00Can we leave this nonsense behind? I would like to...Can we leave this nonsense behind? <BR/><BR/>I would like to hear from other folks that have made similar decisions, choosing to take alternative routes from the mfa in their writing careers after researching the issue...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15642985.post-1149449081708586152006-06-04T12:24:00.000-07:002006-06-04T12:24:00.000-07:00And no, i'm not in an MFA, I just think people sho...And no, i'm not in an MFA, I just think people should attack things on an intelligent level. There is plenty of legit criticism to be said, but you haven't done so, so far.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15642985.post-1149449039922196082006-06-04T12:23:00.000-07:002006-06-04T12:23:00.000-07:00Attacking the people who teach at MFAs. Anyway, I ...Attacking the people who teach at MFAs. <BR/><BR/>Anyway, I assure you that it is you, with your unsupported arguments and freqent attacks/ad hominems ("stupid!!!" Triple explamation point?) who looks like the rabid dog here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15642985.post-1149444908058511022006-06-04T11:15:00.000-07:002006-06-04T11:15:00.000-07:00Also, the point was not really that Coover, Marcus...Also, the point was not really that Coover, Marcus or Erkison are great per se. The point was that their work in no way could be construed as "workshop fiction" unless your definition of workshop fiction is so broad as to encompass almost anything, and thus isn't a useful term at all. <BR/><BR/>For good or for bad, the current situation is that a huger percentage of literary* writers, from all subsets of that, teach at MFA programs and/or guest lecture at them. The ones who do it are normally the lauded and praised ones (as there is a lot of competition for it). So attacking MFAs for who teaches there just doesn't make sense. You might as well attack MFA programs for having shitty locations. Huh? They have locations everywhere, big cities and small, west coast or esat, etc. <BR/><BR/>*literary defined in the broadest sense, from magical realists to minimalists to experimentalists to traditional realists to humorists to most stuff that would be found in the general fiction section of a book store)<BR/><BR/>I guess if your definition of good modern writers is Robert Jordan or Heinlin or some writer whose work fits under a title like "High Fantasy" "Hard Sci Fi" "Horror" or some other genre like that, then you might look down on MFA teachers. But chances are if your obsessed with that kind of stuff, you aren't planning to go to an MFA in the first place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15642985.post-1149444324149293352006-06-04T11:05:00.000-07:002006-06-04T11:05:00.000-07:00So what are you ideas of interesting american writ...So what are you ideas of interesting american writes? <BR/><BR/>Chances are they at least guest teach at MFA programs. Pretty much everyone does. <BR/><BR/>I don't care if you attack MFA programs, but attack them intelligently, not with easily disproved claims.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15642985.post-1149431173065117652006-06-04T07:26:00.000-07:002006-06-04T07:26:00.000-07:00I am not sure what the first anonymous meant by “w...I am not sure what the first anonymous meant by “workshop” fiction, but I guess it means fiction that repeats itself, repeats what has been done before, what has been successful… People assume that kind of fiction writing is taught only in fairly traditional writing programs like Iowa, Michigan or Houston, not knowing that the same goes on in so called “experimental” programs like Brown, Columbia or Johns Hopkins. So I think it’s more accurate to say “workshop” culture or environment than “workshop” fiction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15642985.post-1149429023712987362006-06-04T06:50:00.000-07:002006-06-04T06:50:00.000-07:00If George Saunders, Ben Marcus, Steven Erikson and...If George Saunders, Ben Marcus, Steven Erikson and Robert Coover are your great comtemporary writers, just shut up and do a MFA. I am just saying that some writers are better off without MFAs...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15642985.post-1149402957341102282006-06-03T23:35:00.000-07:002006-06-03T23:35:00.000-07:00Man, what are you talking about? I can see plenty ...Man, what are you talking about? <BR/><BR/>I can see plenty of reasons to not want to get an MFA, but attacking MFAs because of who teaches in them? Probalby a majority of great cotemporary writers teach at MFAs. <BR/><BR/>Workshop fiction? <BR/><BR/>You mean like George Saunders, Ben Marcus, Steven Erikson or Robert Coover?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15642985.post-1149384811653757922006-06-03T18:33:00.000-07:002006-06-03T18:33:00.000-07:00What is "workshop" fiction? (A serious question)What is "workshop" fiction? <BR/>(A serious question)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com