Here are my questions: what do you do to prepare your manuscript for your applications? Do you workshop? Exchange work with a few trusted friends? Revise quietly, alone? Pray?
What do you consider ethical, or unethical, when it comes to getting help? There has been a lot of debate over the last few years about fee-based services and freelance editors (and, full disclosure, I am a freelance editor). Where do you stand on the issue? Have you used such services? Would you consider it? Why, or why not?
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I took my writing to a writing workshop and then used that feedback in my revisions. I had one trusted friend read through those for grammar, etc. Ultimately, I got into all the schools I applied to and am starting this fall! I feel that was the most ethical way to do it. I think writing then revising on your own in a vacuum will lead to oversights and minor mistakes that could make a big impression on those reading your applications. I'm not sure I'm against paying someone to review it if there's no better option, but it wouldn't have been my first choice either.
I meet with a group of others applying to MFA programs (and who I workshopped with in undergrad) once a week and that is extremely helpful. I also have a few other friends who read work for me. This helped both in deciding which pieces I want to use for my sample and also making those pieces the best they can be. I also have my professors from undergrad who are reading work for me and assisting me with both my writing sample and personal statement, which is especially nice as 2 of those professors are now faculty at MFA programs, and know what such programs are looking for. I think any help you can find you should use. I know I could never trust myself enough and pieces would certainly be lacking if not for the insight of others.
I heavily workshopped my sample in numerous classes(3). I then sent it to be read with some other things to have ordered best to worst to ten friends and my references.
My issue is one of novel excerpts: what elements are needed in the excerpt which are easier to show in short fiction? Obviously the arc of the story can be seen unlike the novel (which has the large arc but numerous smaller ones built into scenes between summary). But what is most important? Do I share the beginning and end of the novel to show the large arc (at least pieces of it) or a chapter? Scene?
Help.
I'm coming rather late to this - I'm from the UK and have only just discovered the whole MFA application process. I'm working on my sample right now, because I don't think I have anything in the bag that's good enough right off. I'm planning to get a few creative writing friends to make comments.
JDEvans - I'd say you want a coherent section of the novel, ie one chunk. Some schools suggest you include a synopsis if you're submitting a novel extract, so maybe you could use that to show the story arc?
I'm incredibly overwhelmed by not knowing whether to apply to a low residency vs full residency MFA and to whether studying abroad or in the US is the best fit for me, not to mention which programs of any of the above are good for me. Given that I, as a writer, have just started my career in a serious way (have written for myself all my life), I want to find the best way to catapult/shortcut my professional writing career. Any comments on this issue? Many thanks. Pablo (pabloabravo@gmail.com).
I have a writing group I am sharing my work with though I was looking into hiring a mentor through Creative Nonfiction magazine. I decided against that, but noticed a new online course offered by 24 PearlStreet that will help you hone your MFA manuscript. I'm seriously considering doing that. I'm curious why using an editor would be considered unethical? It is an interesting question. It hadn't even crossed my mind.
I cheated and only sent stories that had sold, so I could trust that they were at least acceptable in quality.
But I can tell you one thing, published or not, that every applicant should make sure to do when preparing writing samples: Take the bright, orange paper out of the printer and put back the plain, white paper *before* printing 100-odd pages of samples for various programs...
(The worst part was standing there with the printouts in my hands seriously debating if I could send them in that way or if I really had to re-print.)
I hope it's alright that I reply to this despite still working towards my BA. I do hope to one day pursue a MFA in creative writing, however. I would be open to any and all kinds of help. Workshops are always incredibly helpful. I personally wouldn't mind going to a freelance editor if I could afford one.
I hope it's alright that I reply to this despite still working towards my BA. I do hope to one day pursue a MFA in creative writing, however. I would be open to any and all kinds of help. Workshops are always incredibly helpful. I personally wouldn't mind going to a freelance editor if I could afford one.
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i strongly recommend to go to a writing workshop...it can really help..
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i strongly recommend to go to a writing workshop...it can really help..
the feedback, the challenges, the whole experience itself will be your tool to make revisions and changes to your writings.
so go for it...
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